ravens_falling ([info]ravens_falling) wrote,
@ 2006-10-09 10:58:00
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Gay Rights (chain post)
"Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?" - Ernest Gaines

I would like to know who believes in gay rights on my livejournal friendslist. There is no bribe of a miracle, no curses for those that don't participate or anything like that. If you truly believe and support the legal rights of gays to be recognized by the state and federal governments in marriage, then repost this. If you don't believe in or support the rights of gays to be legally married, then just ignore this post and please let those that do show their support. Thanks.


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[info]eimear_callahan
2006-10-09 04:38 pm UTC (link)
I believe in gay rights, I have lots of good friends who are gay I love them!!....BUT I believe the definition of marriage as a union between an man and a woman....

Gays need to call thier union something else because it's not the same thing....

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[info]buena42
2006-10-09 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Its pretty silly how the definition of marriage has changed over the years.

Look at biblical times, men had several wives and then possibly several mistresses (depending on wealth) who lived in the same estate!

Look at post biblical times til ~1800, marriage was about power and social position and land and dowries. It was a social contract that gave men ultimate power and if a woman wanted to leave they were scorned in society (the scorn of the divorced woman has continued to only have diminished in the last ~30 years).

It was only in very recent times that marriage was actually associated with "love", meaning that it was a romantic proposition.

Why do people need a license to be married? Besides it being a tax, its also to denote that it is a legal joining of two people. Legal meaning joint-ownership of community assets. Just like a business.

In these days of 50% divorce rates, marriage doesn't mean the same thing to me (and most of the free world) as the romantic ideas I had of it even a decade ago. "Til death do we part" is meaningless. All it is is two people saying to each other before their witnesses that they will possibly be dedicated to each other for an indeterminant amount of time from 1 minute til the death of the other, and that they now own half of each other's wealth, depending on pre-nuptial agreements, and they are now entitled to spousal rights.

That's what the whole argument is about from the homosexual's perspective: I should have the ability to be able to get on my partner's health care plan, to have joint-ownership rights of our community property, and the other spousal rights that are on the lawbooks. Without those rights, alot of situations become very difficult to handle, and this is clearly discriminatory against a specific segment of people.

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[info]satek
2006-10-10 09:06 am UTC (link)
beuna 42 brings up a lot of the points about why gay people want marriage in the first place I think. So I agree with them and think it is discrimination not to allow others the right by law, to share their belongings and make legally binding wills etc. Besides, if two people love one another then I have no problem with them unifying it, I'm very much against racism and sexism. I won't repost it just because my livejournal is basically never used and then friends might expect that I'm actually starting to post again =D

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[info]sillyanna12
2006-10-14 06:16 am UTC (link)
i believe in gay rights because i do have gay friends and one of my friend he always said "i am gay and damn proud of it". and no shame to be gay

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